article Emimen Defends Kid Rock Collab: "Just Choosing to Make Music with My Old Friend" (consequence.net)
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-ImJustSaiyan- 389 points (3 children)
And not just the Emimen, but the Emiwomen and Emichildren too.
Silent9ine 85 points (2 children)
Dont forget the Emithem
KruleDiablo 22 points (1 child)
Dying cause I didn't even notice the typo before your comment
azad_ninja • points
“I hate Em!!!”
AbsoluteGote 318 points (2 children)
Ok let's just ignore politics for a second, what about the fact that Kid Rock fucking sucks?
etr4807 13 points (4 children)
I mean if we’re completely ignoring politics in this hypothetical, then it would be silly to pretend Kid Rock hasn’t had some very popular songs.
clamroll 33 points (1 child)
Politics aside, meth is very popular. It would be silly to pretend like meth hasn't had some very devoted fans.
OnlineMajor 16 points (2 children)
I'm from Australia and even kid rocks good songs, you know it comes from a shit musician. Just like any good DJ Khalid song, they're bangers but you know it's kinda a guilty pleasure cause the artist sucks
eddiestriker • points (2 children)
DJ Khaled has good songs? Every time I hear him shout his own name over someone singing, I change the song
BodaciousBadongadonk • points (1 child)
Haha i bet i could guess both of yalls ages by these comments alone. Not specifically but ill bet my sack rn that youre likely near double their age, maybe late 30s and theyre maybe 20ish. Just based on music tastes alone and acceptance of the various generational douchebags. Everyone can handle their generations shitbags more cuz they can remember a time before the shitbaggery, versus learnin about one as a cunt immediately.
eddiestriker • points
Lmao yep I’m 35. Some of Khaled’s songs would be fine if he would just shut the fuck up and let the singer sing. “ANOTHER ONE. WE DA BEST MUSIC” bruh shut uuuuup
Nemonoone67 7 points (1 child)
25 years ago. He was popular 25 years ago. If it were 2000, you be saying John Denver has some very popular songs. How is he even relevant to the era? Lmao
eeke1 115 points (5 children)
Of course Eminem can say "liberal and evangelical can agree".
They're both rich enough to be immune to anything negative from Maga while one actively grifts and or supports it.
It's easier to remain friends if nothing they influence affects them.
ayoungmanfromtheuk 13 points (1 child)
Yeah true in America if you have money you can buy protection from the real world
StatmanIbrahimovic 5 points
Ain't no war but the class war.
Noocawe 8 points
Wait Kid Rock is evangelical? Doesn't he break all the rules? I guess as long as they can declare they are evangelical or Christian and perform the right way nothing really matters.
Tricky-Ad7897 3 points
It does make his persona from the last like 10 years kinda weak though. 10 years of anti trump music and shit and here he is with his number 1 fan in the music industry, that's some fake demon shit lmao.
sychox51 2 points
As the old saying goes it’s not left vs right it’s top vs bottom
Adebisis-Hat 281 points (2 children)
Junglism32 33 points (2 children)
He loves cheese pies?
One-Earth9294 7 points (1 child)
Cold pizza. I mean who doesn't like cold pizza?
Murray38 17 points
Disgusting
jim45804 2.3k points (7 children)
Choose better friends
ben010783 337 points (2 children)
Even before the Trump stuff, Kid Rock was a tool. I don’t understand why he would defend him now.
Xylamyla 64 points (4 children)
Is he defending Kid Rock and his political opinions? Or is he just defending doing a music collab with a longtime friend? Because those are two different things.
Fragrant-Anywhere489 30 points
He's amplifying Kid Rock's message by lending his credibility to his projects. Kid Rock is on Fox & Friends calling El-Sayed a terrorist. Kid Rock doesn't live or vote in Michigan. Eminem does. Kid Rock is so irrelevant that his Trump shows fail miserably. Remember the Trump Super Bowl Halftime show that no one watched? The Freedom concerts that were cancelled? Just by having Em attached to this album gives it attention. Eminem is the G.O.A.T. Kid Rock is a goat. There's a big difference.
Greenman_on_LSD 66 points (1 child)
That's like saying "I know friend is a shitty person who treats others poorly, but we're still cool because he hasn't done it to me."
BeforeTheEmpty 93 points (1 child)
Hypothetically, if you willingly choose to sit at a table with or befriend a Nazi, what do you think that says about you?
Galant1992 81 points (2 children)
He's besties with 50 Cent who is a homophobic Trumptard.
antiduh 36 points (3 children)
Wait what? God damn it. Fucking money ruins everything.
Effective-End-964 29 points
I mean, people have personal agency. He makes his own choices. He chooses to be a POS.
USA_A-OK 5 points
It's not like he was ever known for being a standup dude
Sad_Minute_3989 22 points (1 child)
Eminem has always been a POS and so has fifty, I don't know were the idea that they are moral paragons came from.
SGTBrutus 175 points
Lose shitty friends.
labiagargantula 125 points * (edited 1h ago) (8 children)
You can be friends with people who you disagree with.
People on Reddit are fucking weird
gRizzletheMagi 42 points
Sure you can be friends with someone you disagree with.
You can also lose fans and face backlash for publicly collaborating with someone who VERY publicly and ceremonially joined hips with the Trump administration.
postinganxiety 29 points (1 child)
Sure, if we disagree on pizza toppings. Not if we disagree with whether or not certain people have the right to exist.
Eother24 24 points
That first sentence is really too vague to be intelligent or insightful. Disagree with on what? Finish the thought. Favorite colors? Best holidays? Human fucking rights?
claritywitch 15 points
He’s the one who drew the “line in the sand;” he deserves this backlash.
HMTMKMKM95 56 points (1 child)
Some shit is so fundamental that it isn't just a disagreement. If you hang with Nazis, I'm not going to want to be around you.
Jirachibi1000 38 points (2 children)
When that disagreement is "I dont like olives on pizza and you do" or "I like cats more than dogs and you don't" then sure :) But when its "I think trans people should be killed and i support bigotry" then no you should absolutely not.
GETHATBUTT 17 points
Healthcare for all vs let’s round the others up into camps
JunnySycle 15 points (1 child)
Im so glad my irl friends aint redditors man. These people are weird asf
Loan_Wolfie 54 points * (edited 1h ago) (5 children)
Tom Morello is as left wing as it gets, and he is friends with Kid Rock, and Kid used to give Tom's mother Pistons tickets.
Frankly, it's nice to see people who are different politically that can be friends and work together. It moderates people and moves them further from right or left wing extremism.
Russia has a long running social media campaign with the aim of dividing America into 2 groups that hate each other. Anything that works against that is a good thing.
It's a shame America isn't a 3 party system with a centrist party.
Edit... 3 party system. Everyone has a different idea of what centrist is. If Democrats are centrist, then a left wing party.
EmeraldJunkie 17 points (1 child)
If this was 20 or so years ago I'd be inclined to agree, but the state of the modern Republican party and how they're choosing to run the United States. I'm fairly left wing and I can certainly see the appeal and logic of certain right wing views, but then I look at the Republicans, ICE, embezzlement, corruption, the list is endless. It's little about different opinions but more about how one party is seemingly hell bent on dismantling any checks and balances in favour of fattening their wallets and removing the rights of their citizens.
When I was a kid I wanted nothing more than to move to the US. I fully believed in every bit of Bush and Obama era propaganda that told me that the US was where dreams could come true. The last decade shattered that dream with a mallet.
InstructionFinal5190 53 points (1 child)
We are at a point where one political party doesn't believe certain groups of people have the right to exist. That same political party is executing American citizens on the streets and is applauding it.
You are either for or against that, and I for one am not going to let by gones be by gones if someone is for it. Fuck em and the horse they rode in on.
Pyyric 29 points (1 child)
lol, what would a centrist party in america be even? Support both Ukraine and Israel? Only slightly fascist? Support trans people's right to exist but only if they stay in their own houses forever?
Democrats on a global scale are right of center already. We do not have a left wing party.
FormerShitPoster 25 points
It's a shame America doesn't have a left wing party. Democrats are the centrist party but anything left of Reagan makes American conservatives shit their diapers.
stingeragent 116 points (12 children)
They have been friends long before trump came around. Being conservative or democrat didn't used to mean you would be lifelong enemies. Unfortunately the current political landscape has made it so.
NorthernDevil 227 points * (edited 2h ago) (1 child)
It’s not like that happened in a vacuum. It’s easy to be friends when you disagree on things like foreign and fiscal policy. Less easy when you disagree on things like rounding up every immigrant and keeping them in camps for months in violation of the Constitution, or whether we should ban books in school libraries, or whether hospitals should be permitted to provide every effective treatment to at-risk pregnant women without fear of criminal reprisal.
Or, more pointedly, when you disagree on the importance of an underage sexual trafficking ring that heavily implicates a political leader.
When what’s considered “political” focuses so heavily on a lot of people’s ability to live a safe, healthy life, that changes the dynamic. Escalation always changes things.
You can’t really expect people to write those kinds of disagreements off just because they’ve now become “political” disputes, can you?
megalodondon 39 points
Thank you. I am so sick of people gaslighting this shit CONSTANTLY because they either agree with this or can't stand to admit their 'rap God' is a fuckin tool
Sulinia 120 points * (edited 2h ago) (1 child)
Let's be honest. Kid Rock's political opinions goes beyond just being conservative or a democrat. He's waved his colors and thoughts about politics to the point where any person/friend with some kind of spine would sit down and talk to him or cut him off.
sacrecide 34 points (1 child)
Kid rock wrote a song about how he loved commiting statutory rape
Gay_Giraffe_1773 41 points (1 child)
When "one side" of the political landscape promotes or enables the elimination and/or extermination of people I love and care about, it ceases to be about "disagreements". Yes, we probably have common ground on certain things, but those hateful viewpoints are dealbreakers for me to consider them "friends". I will work and interact with them because I have to for my livelihood, but I will never trust them or count on them for anything personal in my life again.
DialecticalDeathDryv 63 points (1 child)
Kid Rock is basically single handledly responsible for all of the public hate and backlash against Dylan Mulvaney.
It’s weird to me that you’d look at something like that and be like “why can’t we just put our differences aside?”
Well exactly. Why did kid rock have to launch an international hate campaign against another person? Why didn’t he just live and let live?
juliuspepperwoodchi 8 points
Rob Ritchie has been trash since long before Trump lol
gnufoot 53 points (2 children)
I'm close friends with someone who has always considered himself a republican. But he hates Trump. There's a difference between being Republican and being MAGA.
Couldnotbehelpd 78 points (1 child)
Kid rock was never a good person so
Sure_Selection_443 17 points (1 child)
Because one of them has become a literal Nazi party. It's not that complicated.
Cutsman4057 Concertgoer 8 points (1 child)
The current landscape or the current president?
It wasnt this way until he showed up.
Actually, the right lost its mind when a black guy became president.
Funny how that played out.
r0botdevil 6 points
There's a real difference between being conservation and being MAGA.
guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 305 points (6 children)
One of the many things that bugs me about this is the line "Liberal and evangelical can agree," which feeds into the tired, false trope endlessly spouted by right-wing extremists that anyone who is not conservative or Republican must be an atheist or godless. It's not just wrong. It's a deliberate falsehood spread to indoctrinate people into hating the "other side" as a way to gin up votes out of division and anger.
For most people, faith has nothing to do with political ideology. Plenty of people on both sides are believers, and plenty of people on both sides live their lives as if there is no God.
onewilybobkat 88 points (2 children)
Jesus teaches shit that is antithetical to everything Republicans believe. If they don't keep painting liberals as godless heathens we might notice that there's nothing Christian about anything they do or say.
If there's a war against Christianity, they are the invading force.
guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 23 points
I couldn't agree more. Most so called evangelicals I have known are also the most worldly and ignorant of scripture. They cherry pick things that confirm their existing bias, quote out of context and use only one part of a passage which ignores or contradicts the true intended message.
wagon_ear 47 points (1 child)
Well I think specifically that evangelical Christian ideology is pretty conservative.
Daredev44 14 points (1 child)
Funny enough this is due to CIA actions during the first red scare
guysitsausername 🔊 Eclectic & Dyslexic 🤘 3 points (1 child)
I have been watching documentaries about world history and politics. If you have any books or documentaries to recommend, I will check them out.
Daredev44 4 points (1 child)
I’d highly recommend the Devil’s Chessboard by David Talbot which tells the story of Allen Dulles and the formation of the CIA. Also Errand into the Wilderness of Mirrors
Religion and the History of the CIA
SBY-ScioN 9 points
Plenty of people chose to keep prioritizing conversion therapy, xenophobia and abortions instead of actually think on the best for everybody.
You just can't pardon a group of people just cause now they want to be friends after a decade of destroying the world practically and basically just cause they mixed "by accident" Christianity with Kukluxklanity.
Oopsy my bad, let's be friends.
AdHom 2 points
Historically some sects like Catholics even lean much more left. Not as much these days.
mahki25942 77 points (1 child)
So…remember when he made that whole speech about F@%# anyone that voted for Trump….
NickWangOG 12 points
The guy is just an opportunist clinging to relevancy. People shouldn’t idolize these celebrities they don’t know at all.
BBWolf326 22 points (1 child)
Let's not forget that Em almost torpedoed his career with his political music and "Line in the sand" freestyle. He used his platform and fame to combat all the maga nonsense from jump. Kid Rock did the opposite and tried to regain his status after grifting off his hip hop adjacent music career was no longer working. They are friends but have always represented two different types of white dudes from Michigan.
gusted 45 points (1 child)
Even if the Kid Rock collab was forgivable the line quoted in this article deserves jail time. Holy shit.
EricFredNorris 15 points (1 child)
God damn you weren’t kidding. His verse in the article is the corniest shit I’ve ever seen.
KarlWhitroptkin 19 points (1 child)
Regardless of how shitty of a person Kid Rock is and all that aside, Eminem’s verse is fucking garbage.
Futants_ 46 points (1 child)
My question is why would Em be friends with a wannabe rapper who fcked over real rappers in the early 90s?
Frankyfan3 13 points (2 children)
He wrote and performed songs fetishizing Domestic Violence, but this is where you draw the line?
dubblebubbleprawns 23 points (1 child)
"Young ladies, young ladies
I like em underage, see
Some say that's statutory
I say that's mandatory."
-30 year old Kid Rock
Crossovertriplet 3 points
And then there’s Guilty Conscience.
WhutSup74 106 points (4 children)
Sorry, but if my old friend slobs knob for fascists, to me, that’s an ex-friend not an old friend.
Helagoth 10 points
Right, its not that his old friend is a fascist, or has racist views in private, it's that hes a face of the regime. If kid rock was just an asshole and it was an open secret he was an asshole, then the "old friend" defense is understandable.
In this case, it is not.
angrybobs 19 points
Yep I’ve had to do this with family. Even harder but required.
Benjamminmiller 2 points
It's a friendship that got old, not grew old.
Lazzen 100 points (3 children)
Dolly parton did the same, with the same kid rock person. Why was "saint parton" not given shit over it?
Gradschoolmaybe3 14 points
Because people outsource their morals. They don't have any standards they apply consistently. They just follow the online mob on which successful and rich person to hate on.
brain-out-of-order 21 points (1 child)
People worship projected personas and then get pissy when their parasocial relationship gets battered.
Don’t meet your heroes and stop worshiping people. It’s disgusting. Someone makes music. That has nothing to do with the soul inside of the skin suit.
Managing the persona is 99% of the job.
Further, if you think it’s inappropriate for someone to sing about their faith, then get lost please.
anon33249038 2 points
Amy Winehouse was just a girl who wanted to sing some songs, do you know what I mean?
--- Randy Felface.
Salty-Ad-4693 90 points
Yikes.
Sanchezzy123 175 points (9 children)
So here's the thing. We all hate kid Rock.
However, in the grand scheme of things, he's just a guy who has shitty opinions and is a bad person. He's not trump, and he's not Hitler.
Em and him have a history. They are friends. You probably have friends who aren't exactly the greatest of people, or at the very least have a different opinion on world issues.
We can't expect artists to simply drop all of their personal relationships because we don't like what the individual stands for.
Just my two cents
HalfwayHeroic 73 points (1 child)
He's not trump
Sure, but he uses his celebrity status to endorse and amplify trump's politics.
Few-Attorney-9722 12 points
He shot Budlight beer because he hates trans people
deeplovinz 28 points (5 children)
Im from southeast texas. Ive lived in a very liberal city since i was 18 though, and I’m a liberal myself. If I cut out all the people in my life who voted for trump I’d have no family left. They’re good people at the end of the day, stupid but good and misguided maybe.
CrowdDisappointer 29 points (1 child)
I’m also a liberal from texas, but I went no-contact with my maga family. It was the best hard decision I’ve ever made. Now that the veil of “but they’re your family they can’t be awful people” has been removed, I can see them more clearly and am sooo glad to not have to be surrounded by those miserable twats
donttakerhisthewrong 22 points (1 child)
How do good people support molesting children and rape?
rivlecca 20 points (1 child)
Good people don't support hurting innocent people.
Every single Trump supporter does.
SuccessfulAccount360 15 points (1 child)
They're not good people at all, actually.
Ranier_Wolfnight 9 points (1 child)
You absolutely have a valid point.
People who comment on Reddit make very finite comments. I guarantee there are gray areas in their lives they WISH they could have a say about, but can’t.
Rage_Blackout 12 points
Bold of you to assume Redditors have friends with different opinions. I’m not even sure on just the friends part.
ayoungmanfromtheuk 15 points (1 child)
I don't think anyone is saying he is Hitler, and that's a very odd standard to try and force on it: "you can't be critical of someone unless they are as bad as Hitler", that makes no sense as a standard.
Dirthole_Diddler 12 points (3 children)
My friends aren't gigantic public figures with strong beliefs lol
Tnvenge 4 points
Not excusing either of them - but most celebs and ultra rich people don’t really/fully share our values. I’m not impressed but not surprised when celebs do stuff like this
nohumanape 6 points
Well, when you, yourself, are a "giant public figure", you tend to have friends who are the same.
schweddyballsac 4 points
I’m not parasocial enough to care which people should or shouldn’t be friends with. Same goes with anyone else in my life too. Really none of my business
GoldenColossus55 30 points
There is no left wing or right wing
There is just richs and elites and then everybody else...
OmegaEndMC 5 points
what happened to the line in the sand?
Subject-Lettuce-844 4 points
Outside of all the political hypocrisy, this shit is just corny, a Christian album? 🤮
ZanthrinGamer 53 points (1 child)
when someone becomes a nazi they should stop being your friend. there are limits and lines that once crossed can not be repaired.
PaulaDeen21 26 points * (edited 2h ago)
Sure, you’re totally entitled to ‘just make music with old friends’ and we just get to judge you for it.
jojomoodie 22 points (1 child)
I honestly like the idea of collaborations beyond politics but at the same time Kid Rock has said some anti Muslim shit and that is also beyond politics.
business_drunk 31 points (2 children)
People judge you by the friends you keep.
tisdue 17 points
lay with dogs, wake up with fleas. And, in this case, Hepatitis.
Square-Weight4148 7 points
Eminem must be tired of being relevent.
VikingTensor 17 points (1 child)
How do you make music with Kid Rock? I thought it was just farts and beer noises.
hoirkasp 11 points
balldontlie3030 26 points (1 child)
It’s of course you choice to support or listen to anything you want but I never understand why you expect so much from celebrities, they are just imperfect people like the rest of us
jymmyisgroovy 23 points (2 children)
God when did people become so spineless?
surle 3 points
I mean, his career was established by a guy who openly beat women. And while he's done some good things with his fame and money, he's also said and done some shitty things. Just because he's extremely good at what he does tells us nothing about his personal views and values.
whatishappening2022 3 points
Good for him
Dramatic_Substance36 25 points (1 child)
Gross! Gonna ask Ted Nugget to collab too?
Fragrant-Anywhere489 9 points
Jail Bait is begging for a remix.
Proof_Rise_3652 32 points (2 children)
Not hard to imagine that many people using Reddit do not understand the concept of friendship. One of my closest friend has been spending too much time on Twitter and repeats word for word Kremlin propaganda. I hate it, but he's still my brother, no political bs will come between us. So I just tell him that I think he's a fucking moron and then we pop another beer.
-2wenty7even- • points
That's true human connection right there. Some of us have bonds that are much deeper than "political affiliation". I'd never stop talking to my friends or family because of their beliefs (like religion) or where they align politically (democrat/republican).. That's just asinine.
ObiOneKenobae 69 points (2 children)
People get so silly about this stuff on the internet.
BeyondAddiction 27 points * (edited 2h ago) (1 child)
Right? This is so ridiculous. You'd think Kid Rock was sacrificing orphans or something. He isn't my favourite artist, nor my favourite human, but this whole "omg Eminem considers him a friend and isn't instantly dropping him like a bad habit because they don't agree politically? Cancel him now!!!!" thing is just absolute absurdity.
NoTown3633 26 points (1 child)
This is reddit they dont understand what friends are.
RodJohnsonSays 39 points (10 children)
Here’s a real hard fucking pill everyone needs to swallow: “His verse speaks to something we’ve talked about and that really needs to be heard: we differ politically and on other things, but we’ve stayed friends through it all…We hope that sets an example for people who’ve lost friends or stopped talking to family because they think differently.”
If we’re going to find a way to make it through, like it or not, we need to learn to reintegrate with these fucking imbeciles one way or another.
Good on both of them.
MambaSaidKnockYouOut 15 points (1 child)
It’s hard to reintegrate with people who seek to divide us.
blaqsupaman 7 points
Yeah as much as I don't like it, these people aren't going anywhere. Don't get me wrong, I hope they stay far the fuck away from political power in the future but we do still have to share the country with them.
jdanielregan 6 points
Here’s another hard pill for everyone to suck on: KR’s outspoken bigotry towards trans people is disqualifying from my friendship circle.
Cum_Fart42069 3 points
oh it's already starting. earlier than I expected, he's still in office.
fattsmann 10 points (1 child)
“In America, friends and families that were tight knit for decades can all of a sudden be dead to each other due to political beliefs. And two absolute complete strangers can all of a sudden feel they are blood-bonded just because of shared political beliefs. What a sad time for friends and family.”
3eeve 3 points
Yeah, nah. We need to bring back shame and let people like KR know they aren’t welcome.
IronSheik72 8 points
Oh so beautiful seeing these rich, old, white men put aside their “differences” to make money.
mr_glide 5 points
No, these imbeciles need to be marginalised, because look what it leads to. You can't deal with bad faith actors. That was the mistake that was made last time
SaberRiderTopSword 3 points
”Any fan of mine who's a supporter of his, I'm drawing in the sand a line, you're either for or against."
Sp33dPhr3ak 7 points
Fucking gross
imgrado 24 points (1 child)
Gotta remember this is reddit and any opinions not matching theirs 1:1 are instead framed as unforgivable offenses. Thank God the normal world doesn't function that way. Nothing would ever get done and no progress would ever be made
decavolt 4 points
If my old friend decided nazis were ok, they would not be my friend anymore, Marshall. You shitheel.
l3tigre 5 points
"It's a big club and we aint in it" -carlin
ash_ninetyone 6 points
I question his choice of friends
obxtalldude 12 points (2 children)
This is why when someone asks for loyalty you should give them integrity instead.
Too many people think loyalty is some kind of virtue.
Not promoting awful people would be the correct move? But hey he's an old friend - it's like it's supposed to justify it just because most of us also have problem old friends.
SoreLoserOfDumbtown 2 points (1 child)
Fwiw, I've had old friends be problematic, and during those periods I'd make myself available for conversation, but I wouldn't embark on an artist project or business venture with them.
obxtalldude 2 points
Yeah I've got a couple that are balancing acts because of addiction.
I want to be a resource but I don't want to be an enabler.
It's tough when they are still in denial.
Rwillsays 2 points
lol. Lmao even.
5Gmeme 2 points
Ew.. I was really hoping it was a trash AI track. Damn.
littlesuperdangerous 2 points
Them white rappers gotta stick together. Word.
TheJohnnyRube 2 points
"... when you look long into the abyss, the abyss also looks into you.” --Nietzsche
More_Atmosphere_1717 2 points
Honestly… what did you expect from this guy? He’s a loser from day 1.
DoughnutPi 2 points
Choose better friends
Accomplished_Pay6842 2 points
"Fuck him and fuck you, too."
Fit-Refuse9375 2 points
Pussy
MiserablePotato1147 2 points * (edited 51m ago)
"We're just friends and making music together". Then why are you rapping politics with the politics guy on a politics album, Marshall? GTFO of here with your denials. There's a big difference between being friends and doing business together. Em's literally pissing at the same urinal with Kid Rock and everybody can see it.
Frankyfan3 6 points
Pod people. It's all about their fairy tale imaginary friend and in-group identity.
HFentonMudd 5 points
Actions speak louder than words.
TheSideIDoNotShow 3 points
You are who you associate yourself with.
Up_All_Nite 25 points (6 children)
Is it ok to be friends with someone who has wildly different opinions? Or should we shun our friends completely? I truly hate KR. I'm not a stan either. I'm definitely not a MAGA.
o_o_o_f 12 points
I mean, there is a pretty clear difference between maintaining a normal friendship with someone who’s become very political in their professional life, and collaborating professionally with that person.
democharge92 23 points (1 child)
Can we stop framing deplorable shit as just “different opinions”. If someone said the age of consent should be 12 would you say they are just wildly different opinions and then hang out with them?
tatianazr 26 points (1 child)
If my friends are racist.. then yes. I would shun them. Not that hard
anon33249038 27 points (3 children)
I'm big fan of downvotes.
Yes, it's perfectly fine, and I would even encourage having friends of differing opinions.
SoCalThrowAway7 33 points (2 children)
There are some opinions that I can’t stomach other people having. Like if someone thinks some inherent characteristic, like skin color or sexuality, disqualifies someone else from basic human rights, then that’s not something I can just say “agree to disagree” on. I can disagree all day with someone on where tax dollars should go and still be friends with them, I can’t be friends with a Nazi though.
jdanielregan 13 points (1 child)
And KR’s outspoken bigotry towards trans people is disqualifying from my friendship circle.
rolekrs 11 points (1 child)
People need to stop crying about stupid shit like this, nobody is gonna get hurt from 2 people making a song together. Redditors need to grow up and touch some grass..
Ben_dover8201 1.6k points (6 children)
But what about the sand and that line that you drew
thjeco 135 points * (edited 2h ago) (3 children)
“That line in the sand, was it even worth it?
'Cause the way I see people turning's
Makin' it seem worthless, it's startin' to defeat the purpose
I'm watchin' my fan base shrink to thirds
And I was just tryin' to do the right thing, but word
Has the court of public opinion reached a verdict
Or still yet to be determined?
'Cause I'm determined to be me, critiqued or worshipped
But if I could go back, I'd at least reword it”
Eminem - “The Ringer” (2018)
BawkSoup 65 points (2 children)
TDoSS made me realize he just doesn't care anymore. He's a product and he's happy about it.
gunnersroyale 8 points (2 children)
Toss was probably the best album since encore
mikehatesthis • points
MMLP2 was the best one since The Eminem Show. Most of his records since TES have been really, REALLY forgettable.
megalodondon 15 points (1 child)
Incredibly telling.
AgentCirceLuna • points
I’d say it’s telling when the average person, privileged enough to do the same, isn’t there to help if it goes wrong for someone or is mysteriously still doing quite well for themselves despite all the ‘sacrifices’
Fragrant-Anywhere489 444 points (2 children)
the line in the sand only applies to fans. Not best friends. He just traded a million Stans for a ride in a Black Hawk.
Inkqueen12 53 points (1 child)
The black hawk must have blew away the line in the sand.
PovasTheOne 122 points (1 child)
Unless that sand is somewhere with no wind, that line wont be there for long.
AgentCirceLuna • points
Decent analogy for most people’s moral changes then. As soon as there’s blowback then the line disappears.
PM_me_your_whatevah 44 points (2 children)
A giant tidal wave of cash came and swept it away
everyoneisnuts 34 points (1 child)
Are you kidding? You really think a collaboration with Kid Rock brought him a tidal wave of cash?
CryptographerLow6772 15 points
I don’t think there’s a lot of cash in that wave.
SignGuy77 22 points (2 children)
… and what about when there was only one set of bootprints in said sand?
Wyden_long Go listen to The Streets “A Grand Dont Come For Free” right now 26 points (2 children)
Bullshit, Jesus, those are obviously my footprints.
JTHMM249 6 points
I mentally reference this whenever I hear anything related to the poem and I'm glad I'm not alone.